1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:10,000 From the past 50 years, there's been evidence of highly advanced technology in our skies. 2 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:15,000 Baffling Navy top gun and military helicopter pilots alike. 3 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:22,000 These massive, tic-tac-shaped objects appear to move at warp speeds, defying the laws of physics. 4 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:25,000 This object was going 24,000 miles an hour. 5 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:30,000 Something came in moving very fast and almost hit us, and I have no idea what it was. 6 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:34,000 Could these UFOs be the proof that we are not alone? 7 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,000 Because it really happened. You think I'm lying? 8 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,000 And if so, what do they want? 9 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:44,000 Do you think we're prepared to meet with such superior technology? 10 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,000 An equivalent would lead no. 11 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:53,000 I'm Ben Hansen, former federal agent. 12 00:00:53,000 --> 00:01:00,000 My grandfather worked at a highly classified Air Force base and convinced me we are not alone in the universe. 13 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:04,000 Then I had my own encounter that changed my life forever. 14 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,000 Welcome to UFO Country. 15 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:10,000 Now I've gained access to a top secret archive from Project Bluebook. 16 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:15,000 This planet has been under surveillance for centuries. 17 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:21,000 Containing reports of over 10,000 UFO sightings investigated by the U.S. government. 18 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:26,000 We could very well be standing on the exact place where a UFO crashed. 19 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:30,000 My mission is to uncover the truth. 20 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:51,000 I'm on my way to meet Kevin Day, who was a former chief radar officer for the Navy. 21 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:55,000 Years ago, Kevin was stationed off the coast of California, 22 00:01:55,000 --> 00:02:01,000 and he actually had a front-row seat to one of the biggest UFO sightings in the 21st century. 23 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,000 The Nimitz video. 24 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:16,000 In 2004, the USS Nimitz aircraft carrier was on a combat training mission off the coast of San Diego, 25 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:21,000 when officer Kevin Day had an encounter with an unidentified flying object. 26 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:38,000 The cylindrical object in the shape of a tic-tac hovered somewhere between 15 and 24,000 feet in midair, 27 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,000 and then suddenly darted off. 28 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:46,000 13 years later, video of the encounter was leaked to the New York Times. 29 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:51,000 The video is considered the gold standard of UFO encounters, and to this day, 30 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,000 analysts have been unable to identify the craft. 31 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:58,000 There's simply no denying that this was a UFO. 32 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:03,000 Kevin Day was the radar operator on the Nimitz that day. 33 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:07,000 Since leaving the Navy, he's been warned not to discuss what he saw, 34 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:12,000 but he's agreed to meet with Ben no matter the risk. 35 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,000 I'm waiting a long time to meet you. 36 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:20,000 I have some very specific questions I'd like to take some notes on if you don't mind. 37 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:28,000 But why don't we start out first of all, could you take me back to that day, tell me what was it like to re-design? 38 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,000 I can follow a course air manual. 39 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:36,000 In the morning of the 14th, we had planned to do a major air defense exercise. 40 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:40,000 So we were off the coast about 90 miles off San Diego that day. 41 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,000 I was up on watch, I was anti-air warfare coordinator. 42 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:49,000 I'm the actual guy that makes the identifications. 43 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,000 My whole job is to identify stuff that flies. 44 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:53,000 Okay. 45 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:01,000 And I notice these really strange contacts off Catalina Island. 46 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:09,000 They were at 28,000 feet in a real loose formation and they were tracking south at up 100 knots. 47 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,000 Interesting, I'm a pilot. 48 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:20,000 I can see why you're like, well, what's something that slow doing this high up? 49 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,000 I had never seen anything fly like that before. 50 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,000 Immediately we're thinking, hey, are these things real? 51 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,000 You know, is this some type of glitch? 52 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:36,000 So we ran a bunch of diagnostic tests and we brought all our systems back up and the contacts were, they were stronger now. 53 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:44,000 The objects seemed to ping-pong through the sky, changing speed and directions in ways that defy the laws of physics. 54 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,000 That's when I became concerned about these things. 55 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:54,000 I strongly recommend that we take one of the aircraft that just launched off the Nimitz and go intercept one and see what it is. 56 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,000 Commander Fravor happened to be airborne. 57 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,000 He was one of the first to launch off the Nimitz. 58 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:04,000 One of the best pilots the Navy's probably ever produced. 59 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,000 So I said, hey, let's intercept one of these things. 60 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:12,000 As soon as that happened, he's like, oh my god, oh my god, I'm engaged, I'm engaged. 61 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:22,000 Pilots describe the object as a white 40-foot-long, tic-tac-shaped craft. 62 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:30,000 That object dropped from 28,000 feet down to the surface of the water in less than a second. 63 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,000 So he's like, I gotta go check this out, right? 64 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:38,000 So he loses wingman at pie and he follows it down to the surface and this thing recognizes him. 65 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,000 And next thing you know, this thing is gone. 66 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:58,000 Wow. 67 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:59,000 Yeah. 68 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,000 And it was one of the most humbling moments of my life. 69 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:10,000 We were a highly trained group of people on that ship, years of experience, and these objects totally kicked our asses. 70 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:14,000 If they had been hostile, there was nothing I could have done. 71 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:19,000 Do you think they were curious about what you guys were doing out there? 72 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,000 I'm going to speculate here, Ben, because I don't know. 73 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,000 But I think they've been there for a long, long time. 74 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,000 And I'm going to speculate even a little bit farther. 75 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:38,000 I think that technology upgrade that our ship had received, I think it gave us the ability to finally suddenly see these things. 76 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,000 So I actually have the video right here. 77 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,000 All right, so here's the video. 78 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:49,000 5-2-3, rocket. 79 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:51,000 Look at this. 80 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,000 Oh my gosh, dude. 81 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:02,000 Okay, so he's following this and his altitude is level. 82 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:09,000 And there it goes. 83 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:10,000 There it goes. 84 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:12,000 Just zips off. 85 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:13,000 Yeah. 86 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:14,000 Mind you, a star trek, huh? 87 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,000 The weight dude's got a job. 88 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:25,000 So based on what you were seeing on your radar scope, the video, do we have an estimate of how fast this was going? 89 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:33,000 They crunched the numbers on that and it turns out this object, whatever it was, was going a little bit in excess of 24,000 miles an hour. 90 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,000 24,000 miles an hour. 91 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:39,000 Yeah. 92 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:43,000 And the G forces, the gravities, 1350 G forces. 93 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:47,000 A human can withstand maybe nine without special gear and stuff. 94 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:52,000 The aircraft itself can survive maybe 15, 1450 G before it flies apart. 95 00:07:55,000 --> 00:08:00,000 Was your audio traffic all that you recorded during that ever recovered? 96 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,000 Was that ever found? 97 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,000 People came on board the ship. 98 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:06,000 Looking like Air Force officers. 99 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,000 They had top secret clearances. 100 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,000 These guys collected a bunch of stuff. 101 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:29,000 We have a system there that records all your external communications onto an optical disc. 102 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:31,000 My coms were taken. 103 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,000 All the actual voice data was taken. 104 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,000 All your audio from radio traffic is gone? 105 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:39,000 Yes. 106 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:40,000 Wow. 107 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,000 And did all for the radar. 108 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:49,000 And then they got back on the helicopter and went back. 109 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:51,000 Where did it go? 110 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:52,000 I don't know. 111 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:54,000 That's what happened. 112 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,000 It really, it really happened. 113 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:58,000 You think I'm lying? 114 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:00,000 No. 115 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:01,000 I mean, really? 116 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:03,000 I'm not. 117 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:10,000 Was there any follow-up officially, like after the incident happened? 118 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:11,000 No, that's what... 119 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,000 No one came to talk to you about it? 120 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:14,000 It bugs me so much about this. 121 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,000 You know, I tried to talk to the captain about it. 122 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,000 He seemed disinterested. 123 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,000 I'm trying to talk to the people in my office about it. 124 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:23,000 No one wanted to hear it. 125 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:27,000 And to this day it disturbs me because what do you mean you're not curious about it? 126 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,000 These things are there. 127 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,000 They're right in our airspace. 128 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,000 And there's definitely concerns for safety of flight. 129 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,000 But that's not the only thing that disturbed Kevin Day. 130 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:42,000 After the incident, Kevin began to have nightmares. 131 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,000 My concerns actually manifested into nightmares. 132 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,000 You were having what types of... 133 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,000 It's like end of the world to... 134 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:58,000 Sonomias, tidal waves, earthquakes, forest fires, floods, that type of stuff, which was really weird. 135 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,000 And I didn't know what the hell was going on with me. 136 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:06,000 The reason why I am here talking to you is because... 137 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,000 Something's happening here. 138 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,000 And my personal fear is... 139 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:14,000 What if... 140 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,000 Happened to me, happens to the whole damn world at the same time? 141 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:24,000 And nobody knows why all of a sudden everything's changing. 142 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,000 That might not end so well for us, Ben. 143 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,000 So I think we need to put a stop to this. 144 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:34,000 So I think we need to prepare for this because it's coming whether we want it to or not. 145 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:42,000 I didn't expect Kevin to be so emotionally impacted from this event. 146 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,000 It's been 15 years since this occurred. 147 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:50,000 And yet you can see in his eyes this completely changed his world. 148 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,000 He felt like these objects may have been here for a long time. 149 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:58,000 Can we place this event that was only 15 years old in history? 150 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,000 A pattern perhaps is emerging. 151 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:09,000 Ben contacts the one person he thinks knows the truth, Jenny Zeidman. 152 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:15,000 The last remaining member of the top secret government agency, Project Blue Book. 153 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:22,000 Starting in 1952, Project Blue Book analyzed thousands of UFO encounters. 154 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:27,000 Like Kevin, Jenny has never gone public with what she knows. 155 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:31,000 But she's agreed to share what the government knows about the UFOs 156 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,000 and grant Ben access to her case files. 157 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,000 Jenny, Mark. 158 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:44,000 I just had a really great conversation with Kevin Day of the USS Nimitz case. 159 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:51,000 A very personal, up-close, kind of terrifying experience that these military pilots had. 160 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,000 With this UFO. 161 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:01,000 If they had been hostile, there was nothing I could have done. 162 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,000 Jenny, what do you think of this? 163 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:07,000 This was a horrible, scary thing. 164 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,000 I was like, I couldn't control anything about it. 165 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,000 You didn't even know what it was. 166 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:17,000 Joining Jenny and Ben is UFO historian Mark O'Connell. 167 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:21,000 All we know for sure is he was very close to this object. 168 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,000 But what is it? 169 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:26,000 It's an enigma wrapped up in a mystery. 170 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:31,000 But it's not the first time Jenny's heard accounts of an oval-shaped craft 171 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,000 playing games with American military pilots. 172 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,000 Jenny sends Mark to dig up one of the cases in her archive, 173 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:41,000 the Coyne UFO helicopter case of 1973. 174 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:47,000 There was a profusion of UFO cases in the fall of 1973. 175 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:51,000 Most of them were in the Eastern United States, 176 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,000 among them the Coyne helicopter case. 177 00:12:55,000 --> 00:13:00,000 Most of the time with UFO reports, there's one person. 178 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:04,000 The Coyne case had separate witnesses. 179 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:08,000 Several witnesses all reported seeing the same thing. 180 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:13,000 A cylindrical object flying across the sky at incredible speeds. 181 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,000 Just like the Nimitz Tic Tac video. 182 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:21,000 I interviewed the crew mostly separately. 183 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,000 They're very cooperative. 184 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,000 They were very cooperative. 185 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:30,000 Coyne is very serious and I can't imagine him pulling anything. 186 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,000 I think we got the tapes right here. 187 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,000 Well, let's have a listen. 188 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,000 Jenny's tapes are the original interviews she conducted 189 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:41,000 with the Coyne helicopter crew about their UFO encounter. 190 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,000 First up, Sergeant Healy, the flight medic, 191 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,000 describes what the object looked like. 192 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:51,000 We were headed northbound on the 18th of October of 1973. 193 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,000 And all of a sudden there's a great light. 194 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:58,000 The odd thing is that the thing that keeps you up in the air is wings. 195 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,000 And this thing has wings. 196 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:06,000 Next, Robert Yannisek, crew chief, describes how the UFO moved. 197 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,000 It was obvious that it was coming at us. 198 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:11,000 I hate to call it crash style, but that's basically what it was. 199 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,000 It was the last trip we got all the way. 200 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,000 It just seemed like it was there for the demo. 201 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:20,000 I'd say it was stopped for 10 to 12 seconds. 202 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,000 I mean, it stopped. It wasn't cruising, it was stopped. 203 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:28,000 Finally, Captain Coyne, the helicopter pilot, describes the encounter. 204 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,000 This object became bigger and bigger. 205 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,000 But we raised our impact. 206 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:39,000 We went from 1,700 feet all the way around up to 3,500 feet. 207 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:44,000 There's no explanation for why the collective bottom and the gaining held it. 208 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:54,000 The UFO described by the Coyne helicopter crew and the Nimitz naval pilots 30 years later 209 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:58,000 sound eerily similar in appearance, movement, and encounter. 210 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,000 But that's not all. 211 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:07,000 Soon after the Coyne incident, Sergeant Healy, like Kevin Day, began having strange nightmares. 212 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:13,000 I dreamt that my spirit or whatever was floating looking down at me lying dead in bed. 213 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:17,000 And the only thing that I was thinking was I was worried about what would happen to my two boys. 214 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:23,000 It sounds like someone who suffered something very traumatic. 215 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:29,000 This was a nightmare. In a nightmare, you were watching something which you have no control over. 216 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:36,000 So do we have anything else reported? Other witnesses? Did they come out in the time? 217 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:41,000 As Jenny soon discovered, people on the ground also saw the object. 218 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:46,000 The second group was a family, several kids, mother driving. 219 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:50,000 Just the case file here. Let's have a listen. 220 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:14,000 As I entered a portion of the road, we saw a light. 221 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,000 A red and green light. 222 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:27,000 Moving together, coming down rapidly towards us. 223 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,000 I became aware of a second group. 224 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:36,000 I saw the light. Some of them crashing and pushing from behind. 225 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:42,000 I thought the two sets of lights were about to crash. 226 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,000 I turned my children to stay in the car. 227 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,000 My son ran out. 228 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,000 We stepped out of the car. 229 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,000 And we could see with the light. 230 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,000 We were so scared. 231 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,000 We could see the lights were converging. 232 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,000 Family. 233 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,000 Everything turned green. 234 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:50,000 That illustration is true to the testimony of the family in the car. 235 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:53,000 So they were actually pretty close. 236 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:57,000 Well, one of the kids said the object was as big as a school bus. 237 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:01,000 And this is very credible testimony. 238 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:07,000 So that means that these are truly unidentified objects. 239 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,000 You were over several months talking to them. 240 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:15,000 Oh, over months. None of these stories ever changed. 241 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:20,000 By this time, I've been working on the case so long 242 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:26,000 that I probably just sat and looked at the papers and looked at the papers. 243 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:30,000 And said, this is it. 244 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:40,000 And I'm looking at this and thinking about Kevin Day's description. 245 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,000 What they described as a tic-tac. 246 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:48,000 Right? Cylindrical. No wings. No tail. 247 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,000 And I can't help but think of similar. 248 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:57,000 We have 1973 something such as this. 249 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:02,000 Right? Is it possible we're dealing with the same phenomena, the same craft? 250 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,000 Or the same models. 251 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,000 The same type of class or like you said model. 252 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,000 Maybe it was a very popular model. 253 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:13,000 It's interesting that both cases we're talking about, the Nimitz case and the coin copter case. 254 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:20,000 Why are they so curious about interfering with military aircraft? 255 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,000 What are they looking for? What are they testing? 256 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,000 Pretty mind boggling. 257 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,000 I agree. It's very puzzling. 258 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:34,000 What else can we find in history where we've had these very close contact reports 259 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:38,000 with military pilots or personnel with UFOs? 260 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:43,000 Well, the first on record is from January 1948. 261 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:47,000 That's when an international guard pilot named Thomas Mantell 262 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,000 was ferrying a plane from Georgia up to Kentucky. 263 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,000 And what he didn't know was while he was flying north, 264 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:57,000 people all over Kentucky were already seeing strange objects in the sky. 265 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:01,000 So Mantell is flying into this area where all these sightings are taking place 266 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:06,000 and he gets the order to change course, follow this thing, find out what it is. 267 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,000 So he breaks off from the three other pilots in his group 268 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:15,000 and basically starts chasing this object, starts following it higher and higher. 269 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:19,000 Unfortunately, his plane wasn't equipped with oxygen. 270 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:25,000 He was on a short flight at lower altitude and he didn't need the oxygen. 271 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:30,000 And he's flying way past an altitude where you need oxygen. 272 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:31,000 And he passed out. 273 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:36,000 He may have actually suffocated at 30,000 feet before he went into his crash dive. 274 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:42,000 All we know for sure is he got to about 25,000, 30,000 feet and his plane crashed. 275 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:46,000 Mantell's case was a real tragedy. 276 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,000 As far as we know, it wasn't directly caused by the UFO, 277 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:54,000 but getting up there and following it was an impetus that maybe caused his death. 278 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:55,000 Yeah, exactly. 279 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:59,000 Captain Mantell, when he set out that day in his airplane, 280 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:06,000 he had no idea that he would be sent off to chase some weird thing in the sky. 281 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:09,000 And he would be dead before the day so far. 282 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:17,000 People's lives have and can be taken because of these events. 283 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:25,000 And therefore, I think it's a safety concern and it's something I think the government should officially take seriously. 284 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:31,000 I'm a pessimist as you may have gotten his so from time to time. 285 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:41,000 They're so far ahead of us psychologically and I don't see how we could ever survive. 286 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:50,000 There's a lot of information here to process and I would love to read over your full report, Jenny. 287 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:54,000 Is there anyone that you think I could talk to that was actually there that day? 288 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,000 Yeah, we managed to track down Rick Jezi. 289 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:58,000 Really? 290 00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,000 Oh, yeah. 291 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:05,000 One of the four crewmen on the helicopter, he was at the controls of the helicopter when they first sighted the object. 292 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:09,000 So he's going to have a lot of really good stuff to share with you. 293 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,000 Oh, I can't wait. 294 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:15,000 You better see him fast because time is fleeting. 295 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:26,000 Jenny arranges a meeting with coin helicopter pilot, Rick Jezi. 296 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:35,000 Rick hasn't gone on record since the 1970s, but due to Ben's background, he's agreed to meet him in a hotel in Philadelphia. 297 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:39,000 Interviewing Rick is a once in a lifetime opportunity. 298 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,000 Rick, thank you so much for meeting me here. 299 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:59,000 I have talked to Jenny Zeidman and gone over a lot of things and I'm so happy to have you actually here because unfortunately as I understand, most of the crew or all of them are all gone. 300 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,000 Yep. 301 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,000 And, uh... 302 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,000 Last man standing. 303 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,000 I know maybe it's been a while since you told the story. 304 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:09,000 Can you take me back to that and just try to remember the details? 305 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,000 Who noticed something unusual first and what happened? 306 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:19,000 We were about 2,000 feet above the ground and we were flying. 307 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,000 Everything was copacetic. 308 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:30,000 It was a clear night and I think it was the Anisek who said, gee, there's a red light in the eastern horizon and it's approaching. 309 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:34,000 And then all of a sudden the commentary increases in tempo. 310 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,000 It seems to be coming right at us. 311 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:44,000 It's a red light and it just seems like the intensity began to increase. 312 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:48,000 So it was traveling relatively fast. 313 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,000 Was it 600 knots? 314 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:50,000 Was it 500 knots? 315 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,000 I can't say. 316 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:52,000 Was it 1,000? 317 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,000 Who knows. 318 00:23:53,000 --> 00:24:00,000 But it was much, much faster than what we were used to seeing at that altitude on our regular flight. 319 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,000 Boyne says, I've got the aircraft. 320 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:12,000 Immediately he went into a auto rotation, which in an army helicopter, you cut the throttle and you put the collective down and you drop and you drop pretty aggressively. 321 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:16,000 But the helicopter didn't drop at all. 322 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:24,000 Instead, it started rapidly gaining altitude, completely out of the pilot's control. 323 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,000 Something happened. 324 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:29,000 Something came in and it rattled the crew. 325 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,000 And I have no idea what it was. 326 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:43,000 I only got to see the object who was directly above us. 327 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:51,000 And what I noticed was a very bright white light is close enough to be a major concern. 328 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:57,000 It moved quickly and I recall following it. 329 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:01,000 All the way to the horizon where it disappeared. 330 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:07,000 And all of a sudden we noticed that we were a little higher altitude that would typically would fly. 331 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:11,000 After it passed, we got back to altitude. 332 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,000 We flew back to Cleveland Hawkins and landed. 333 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,000 First reaction was we could contact the FVA. 334 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,000 They weren't flying. 335 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,000 Every aircraft was down that day. 336 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:28,000 With no flights airborne at the time of the encounter, the strange craft was truly an unidentified object. 337 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:36,000 So we reported it as an un-year miss and that was the official position that was taken. 338 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:48,000 I mean, and that's exactly what has me curious is that something going clearly faster than 250 knots below 10,000 feet should not be doing that. 339 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:56,000 Clearly unsafe, but what kind of conventional craft do you think possibly could be doing this? 340 00:25:56,000 --> 00:26:02,000 And one of the reactions that we had is it could have been F-100, but we didn't hear any noise. 341 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:07,000 We didn't get into some turbulence or any of that sort. 342 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:14,000 So it was a different reaction that we experienced as a result had it been a conventional jet aircraft. 343 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,000 It wasn't a meteor. 344 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,000 I can tell you categorically it was not a meteor. 345 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,000 And it wasn't hallucination. 346 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:20,000 It was not a hallucination. 347 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,000 Wow. 348 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,000 Okay. 349 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:26,000 Well, that's quite the experience. 350 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:31,000 When you landed as a crew, you made the official reports, but did they do any follow up with that? 351 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,000 Did they find this concerning? 352 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,000 No. 353 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,000 There was no follow up from the military at all. 354 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,000 Not at all. 355 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,000 Not at all. 356 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,000 Wow. 357 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:46,000 My puzzlement is why would the military, the FAA, not be more concerned of finding out? 358 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:53,000 Well, I think the military know a lot more than they say, but obviously they're not discussing it. 359 00:26:53,000 --> 00:27:04,000 Now, one of the things that true that happened was that the mag compass on that helicopter never functioned the same way as it did before. 360 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:08,000 At times it would just spin on its own. 361 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,000 Really? 362 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,000 And then it would stop. 363 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,000 And it would point someplace that it shouldn't be pointing to. 364 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,000 It was weird. 365 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,000 It was replaced later. 366 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:22,000 Unfortunately, that piece of hard evidence appears to have been destroyed and the story covered up. 367 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:27,000 Did you ever talk to each other about like, hey, should we talk to the public about this? 368 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,000 There was some sensitivity about being embarrassed. 369 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,000 I mean, who were these cliques who saw our UFO? 370 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:35,000 That permeated some of the discussions that we had the next day. 371 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:41,000 And Saturday morning, both Yannisek and Healy came out and they both had sketched what they saw. 372 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:48,000 And interestingly, both had sketched very similar objects. 373 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,000 Wow. 374 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,000 I again wanted to really thank you, Rick. 375 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:59,000 It may not have been easy for you to come here today, but thank you for trusting me in hearing your story. 376 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,000 I really appreciate it. 377 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,000 Okay. 378 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,000 Thank you. 379 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:09,000 Rick's experience to terrifying encounter, similar to Kevin Day's, now both men have the same question. 380 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:13,000 Why did the government cover it up? 381 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,000 Something unexplainable happened to Rick's helicopter. 382 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:24,000 When they attempted to descend, the helicopter instead ascended 1800 feet in a matter of seconds. 383 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,000 Is it possible that the UFO was pulling it up like a magnet? 384 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,000 Ben decides to set up an experiment. 385 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,000 Good morning. 386 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,000 You must be Andrew. 387 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,000 I'm Andrew. 388 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,000 Ben, nice to meet you. 389 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,000 Nice to meet you, Ben. 390 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:40,000 Andrew Adrian is a helicopter pilot who specializes in high-altitude maneuvers. 391 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:44,000 You got the notes that I sent you about what we're trying to do, right? 392 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,000 I did. 393 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,000 Great. 394 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:47,000 Let's get started. 395 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,000 All right, sir. 396 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:55,000 Ufologists theorize that extraterrestrial spacecraft used magnetic forces to propel themselves through the galaxy. 397 00:28:55,000 --> 00:29:00,000 Could this also account for the helicopter's rapid ascent in 1973? 398 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,000 Ben wants to put this theory to the test. 399 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,000 John, are you rolling go-kros right now? 400 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:10,000 We have to make sure that the crew has some experience in this too, because some of them get air-sick. 401 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,000 Clear! 402 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,000 All right. 403 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,000 Ready to do this. 404 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:23,000 I think today's late turn and pressure's coming up. 405 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,000 You're degree in check. 406 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,000 Check, check, check. 407 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:36,000 So what we're going to do is climb up to 1,700, indicating the conditions in which the crew in 1973 were facing. 408 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,000 We're going to do 1,600 feet now. 409 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,000 They're approaching that 100 knots. 410 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,000 They said they were doing it. 411 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,000 Right, so the UFO is about to collide with them. 412 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,000 They're pushing down. 413 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,000 They come down to 1,700 feet. 414 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,000 All right, let's do it. 415 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,000 Let's see what you can do. 416 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,000 There it is. 417 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,000 Starting. 418 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,000 So, climbing up. 419 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,000 There's just some cheese out of this. 420 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,000 Yeah! 421 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,000 Got 2,100. 422 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,000 Approaching 2,500 feet. 423 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,000 2,570. 424 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,000 2,900. 425 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,000 About 3,000 feet. 426 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,000 You've got 500 feet left to go. 427 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,000 31. 428 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,000 31. 429 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,000 3150. 430 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,000 3350 almost there. 431 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,000 3,400. 432 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,000 3,500. 433 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,000 Time. 434 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,000 One minute 37. 435 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,000 Enter. 436 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,000 We're way off. 437 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,000 We are way off. 438 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,000 The test is complete and the results are clear. 439 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:53,000 A helicopter cannot climb 1,800 feet in 10 seconds. 440 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,000 We're going a ways off. 441 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:59,000 The only two things in my mind that could have happened 442 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,000 were maybe it was something some frontal activity 443 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,000 some stronghold was in the area. 444 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,000 That definitely couldn't have contributed. 445 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,000 Yeah. 446 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:11,000 Something got a hold of them and moved them 1,800 feet 447 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,000 in a matter of seconds. 448 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,000 You know, that pretty much resolves what I needed 449 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,000 out of this experiment. 450 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,000 Great. 451 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,000 Well, thank you so much. 452 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,000 This is great. 453 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,000 It was a pleasure. 454 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,000 Thank you. 455 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,000 Wow. 456 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,000 That was fun. 457 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,000 This experiment was a huge success. 458 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,000 I learned some things that I was not expecting 459 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,000 with a helicopter. 460 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:43,000 What it told me is that any helicopter 461 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:47,000 is not going to be able to make that rate of climb 462 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,000 naturally within 10 seconds. 463 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,000 I just don't see it happening. 464 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,000 We're left with the X factor. 465 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:58,000 Some external force had to have created this scenario 466 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:03,000 where the helicopter ascended 1,800 feet in 10 to 12 seconds. 467 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,000 Ben is now convinced that the helicopter was somehow 468 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:12,000 manipulated by the tic-tac-shaped UFO it encountered. 469 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:16,000 But the question remains, how did the tic-tac achieve this? 470 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,000 And why? 471 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:21,000 To find out, Ben is meeting with a local UFO expert 472 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,000 who claims to have never before revealed info 473 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,000 on the coin helicopter case. 474 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,000 Hey. 475 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,000 It must be Tom. 476 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,000 I'm Tom. 477 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,000 Nice to meet you. 478 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:35,000 So thank you so much for meeting me here. 479 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:39,000 I'm really interested to first know how did you get started 480 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,000 in investigating the coin copter case? 481 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,000 One thing that really made me start digging in this whole case, 482 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:48,000 you've got trace evidence from mechanical issues on the helicopter. 483 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:52,000 I'm a pilot, and when you do maintenance on any aircraft, 484 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:56,000 that maintenance follows the aircraft for the life 485 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,000 of the plane, the helicopter you're required to. 486 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:04,000 Do you know if the military made official documentation 487 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:08,000 of those effects on the craft or what happened to it afterward? 488 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,000 Well, here's the problem. 489 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:13,000 When you dig into it, you find out that the compass was swapped out. 490 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:20,000 And after 90 days, they threw away the documentation associated with it. 491 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,000 After way of sex, so. 492 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,000 Yeah, yeah, right. 493 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,000 Then they went back later on and started talking to the crew 494 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,000 about some unusual dreams. 495 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:34,000 What they related to out of body experiences. 496 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:38,000 Kevin Day in 2004 and Rick's crew in 1973 497 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:43,000 both discussed having residual nightmares after their UFO encounters. 498 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,000 My concerns actually manifested into nightmares. 499 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:50,000 Tsunamis, tidal waves, earthquakes, forest fires, floods, that type of stuff. 500 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,000 I dreamt that my spirit or whatever was floating 501 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,000 looking down at me lying dead in bed. 502 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,000 They want to know about the content of the dreams 503 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,000 and they want to know all about the dreams. 504 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,000 We want to know about the dreams. 505 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,000 So who was it that asked them about their dreams? 506 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:10,000 It came from the Surgeon General's office. 507 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,000 Has the government long known that apocalyptic nightmares 508 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:17,000 were an after effect of UFO encounters? 509 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:21,000 Tell me a little bit more about the effects on the Huey helicopter. 510 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:25,000 On the helicopter, they did a magnet flux test the next day. 511 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:30,000 The magnet flux test, what they would do is spray on a chemical. 512 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:34,000 Then it would put like an ultraviolet light to it and look for fractures. 513 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:40,000 Why would you do a magnet flux test out of the clear blue sky? 514 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,000 Unless you're looking for something. 515 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,000 Do you know who did this? 516 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,000 I mean, they're superiors. 517 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,000 It's just like the mechanics. 518 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,000 There was no mention of exactly who ordered it. 519 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,000 But it was just done. 520 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,000 So they get back, they do these tests on the helicopter. 521 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:59,000 It's unusual to be testing an aircraft on a routine flight. 522 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,000 That's soon afterwards. 523 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,000 I mean, why would you do that? 524 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:08,000 To me, that would be such a major coincidence that they would do it the next day. 525 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,000 So what about the crew? 526 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,000 Did they debrief them on the whole thing? 527 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,000 Well, that's another interesting thing. 528 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:21,000 So it took like six months for eventually a disposition to get filled up with like the FAA. 529 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:26,000 Where they documented everything that happened. 530 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:31,000 And I asked Healy and Yanacheck both about that document. 531 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:38,000 I said, does the military mind you talking about this as long as we stay with the story? 532 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:43,000 So basically what they were saying is as long as I don't vary 533 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:48,000 and kind of become very opinionated on everything and I just stay with the script, 534 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,000 they're fine with me. 535 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,000 So I'm like, that's unusual. 536 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,000 What happens to the helicopter after that? 537 00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:01,000 Well, that would be a good question because that's your biggest piece of physical evidence. 538 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,000 I tracked down the tail number, 539 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:08,000 found out that the helicopter was pulled out of service, reassigned another number, 540 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,000 and sent to Columbia. 541 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,000 I found WikiLeaks documents. 542 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:18,000 To that effect, yes, this helicopter in March of 2009, 543 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:22,000 Christ, killing all four crewmen on board. 544 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,000 And it wasn't because it was shot down. 545 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,000 Huh. 546 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:32,000 What if this helicopter had ongoing mechanical issues? 547 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:38,000 What if you found maybe magnetic effects on the helicopter all these years later? 548 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:46,000 Based on Tom's research, is it possible that the 1973 UFO encounter damaged the helicopter, 549 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:50,000 which in turn caused it to crash years later in the jungles of Columbia? 550 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,000 Awesome, Tom, you've given me so much information. 551 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:54,000 Thank you. 552 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,000 Thank you. 553 00:36:56,000 --> 00:37:00,000 Tom has really gone the extra mile in a lot of aspects of this case. 554 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:04,000 He actually tried to track down where the helicopter went. 555 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:09,000 I mean, the question is, are some of the problems that contributed to the crash 556 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,000 related to this UFO incident? 557 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:22,000 Both Kevin Day and Rick Jeze had unexplainable encounters with Tic Tac shaped UFOs during their time in the military. 558 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:32,000 With the similarities of the two incidents, how many other pilots and crew have had experiences like Kevin Day and Rick Jeze? 559 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:41,000 To find out, Ben is reaching out to Narcap, an organization that tracks anonymous pilot reports of encounters with UFOs. 560 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:44,000 Hi, Ted. 561 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,000 Hi, good morning. 562 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,000 Thank you for meeting with me. 563 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:54,000 Can you tell me, on average, how many new cases do you get reported to you from pilots? 564 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,000 We average about two dozen cases a year. 565 00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,000 Wow. 566 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,000 Yes, we feel it's a tip of the iceberg. 567 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,000 Generally, FAA will not take them on and won't study them. 568 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:15,000 And this is a very irrational perspective, in my opinion, because any time I'm in a gathering of airmen, somebody's got something to tell me. 569 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,000 And Ted, you've been doing this for quite some time. 570 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,000 What do you think they are? 571 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,000 Where do you think they're from? 572 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,000 That's the big question. 573 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:30,000 Some of them, I think, are natural phenomena, but others beg a different explanation. 574 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,000 They're clearly technical. 575 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:38,000 They're clearly superior in performance to any known aerial phenomena, including airplanes. 576 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:44,000 I have a hard time believing that they're human technology, wherever they're from. 577 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,000 Do you think we're prepared? 578 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:55,000 If this were malevolent, if they have bad intentions, do you think we're prepared to meet with such superior technologies? 579 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,000 No. 580 00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,000 No. 581 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,000 Unequivocally, no. 582 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:10,000 We're talking about something very, very different, and we've had no real preparation for it, just rumors. 583 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:22,000 If you take all these factors together, I don't know why the media especially or the government doesn't take more notice of these things, because they're significant. 584 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:26,000 They could be potentially very dangerous, and they're happening. 585 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,000 That's a good synopsis right there. 586 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,000 All right, well, Ted, thank you so much. 587 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,000 You've given me a lot to think about. 588 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:38,000 Everything that you've done to collect these reports, I think, is very important, and I appreciate your time. 589 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,000 Thank you very much, man. 590 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,000 Thank you. 591 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:48,000 Ted and the Narcap organization have been studying UFO pilot reports for decades. 592 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:53,000 And what he concludes is that these are not conventional craft. 593 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,000 They are probably not from here. 594 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,000 They're extraterrestrial. 595 00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:03,000 And I think that that is confirming what I've been seeing in the Coyne-Popter case and with the Nimitz video. 596 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:11,000 So if these are the types of reports we're getting that are coming forward, think about all the others we're not receiving. 597 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:21,000 Digging into Narcap's archives, Ben turns up a shocking video taken by two documentary filmmakers. 598 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,000 Has the Tic Tac craft been cited once again? 599 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:32,000 Ben is meeting back up with Kevin Day and legendary ufologist Dr. Bruce McAbee to find out their opinions. 600 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:40,000 I'd like to start with this video that we obtained from a more recent case out of Beaver, Utah. 601 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,000 Kind of just like your opinions on this. 602 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:47,000 Right there. 603 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,000 So fast. 604 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,000 Here's a slowed down version. 605 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:55,000 But as you see it come here, came down through that far valley. 606 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:59,000 Ostensibly, this does come from that valley, right? 607 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,000 It appears that way. 608 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,000 It is a long distance away. 609 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,000 It's a big thing and it's going at extremely high speed. 610 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:11,000 Coming out of the right here, okay, it starts to take shape. 611 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,000 I'm noticing the shape of it seems similar. 612 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,000 I mean, how would you describe it? 613 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,000 I look at that and it's a pill shape. 614 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:19,000 Tic Tac. 615 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,000 Looks like a Tic Tac. 616 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,000 Yeah. 617 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:25,000 Are we perhaps looking at the same phenomenon? 618 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,000 That's my personal speculation. 619 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:37,000 The Kraft cabin encountered the one that pulled Rick Jezzy's helicopter and this new object out of Utah all share the signature Tic Tac shape. 620 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,000 So Bruce, I'm sure you've looked over this. 621 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,000 What is your take when you initially saw this? 622 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:47,000 I often wonder whether somebody got his head chopped off for the release of this stuff. 623 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:55,000 Anyway, this thing whatever it was was out of its cage playing with us. 624 00:41:56,000 --> 00:42:00,000 Here they're saying, we can do something you can't do. 625 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:04,000 This thing is sort of moving in oddball patterns. 626 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:09,000 You could say, well, it looks like instantaneous direction changes. 627 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:15,000 It's the type of thing that's been reported for years, but people didn't know how to believe it. 628 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:21,000 A guy where I worked told me about a sighting he and his kids had one day in the Washington, D.C. area. 629 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,000 I never published this, but I might. 630 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,000 He's long gone. 631 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:30,000 Anyway, he said he was out there sitting on his lawn one Sunday. 632 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,000 This was back in the 70s. 633 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:37,000 He looks up and he sees this thing come dropping down some apparent altitude. 634 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,000 And he's watching another one comes in from another direction. 635 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,000 And then he's got two of these things side by side. 636 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,000 Then one of them goes right straight up. 637 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:48,000 And the other one leaves by going, bing, bing, bing. 638 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,000 A zigzag motion. 639 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:57,000 So what you're saying is they may have been seeing the same types of objects, but they were just seeing it differently. 640 00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,000 Well, they didn't know how to interpret it. 641 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:06,000 I'll tell you, with my experience with hoaxes and CGI, if this is CGI, this is actually really pretty good. 642 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:16,000 It takes a lot of detail, in my opinion, to do an overlay composite and give that motion blur and the frame and the attention to the detail 643 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:21,000 in that if this is this close to camera now, this is the last frame. 644 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:25,000 So you're seeing frame by frame together together together as it gets closer. 645 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,000 It spreads out. 646 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,000 Not a lot of people would know even to consider doing that in a hoax. 647 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,000 That's true. 648 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:37,000 Previously, the government has tried to keep this whole subject at arm's length. 649 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:43,000 And if everybody who was a witness fell off the cliff, the government wouldn't care. 650 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:50,000 So what you're saying is they may have been seeing the same types of objects, but they were just seeing it differently. 651 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,000 Well, they didn't know how to interpret it. 652 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:57,000 We have suspected that the government is doing more than they are saying for years. 653 00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:01,000 The problem is they can't keep the UFOs themselves quiet. 654 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:05,000 Well, the whole phenomenon is being driven by them. 655 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:10,000 Ready. Thank you very much. 656 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:15,000 After meeting with Bruce and Kevin, Ben returns home with Jenny's file. 657 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:21,000 Based on his investigation, Rick and his crew likely encountered something otherworldly. 658 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,000 Whatever it was, it's returned. 659 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,000 So where do things stand now? 660 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:30,000 So there's still one piece of the puzzle that I'm not completely sure about. 661 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,000 What was the government's role in all this? 662 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:41,000 Kevin Day and the helicopter crew, they really didn't give testimony of the attention that it deserved, and then the government might completely sign. 663 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:47,000 So I was researching this and something really interesting happened. 664 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:55,000 The Nimitz video has now become the central focus of the media because the Pentagon came out and said, 665 00:44:55,000 --> 00:45:02,000 not only do we confirm that the video is authentic, but it depicts a truly unidentified flying object. 666 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:07,000 In response, a retired government official issued the following statement. 667 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:15,000 I'm glad the Pentagon is finally releasing this footage, but it only scratches the surface of research and materials available. 668 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:19,000 The American people deserve to be informed. 669 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:30,000 Personally, I'm glad that the Pentagon has finally come clean with the existence of UFOs, but the Tic Tac mystery still remains an unexplained threat. 670 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:43,000 I mean, should we be more concerned as to why these objects suddenly reappeared again, and should our pilots be prepared for more close encounters like Rick and Kevin experienced? 671 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:52,000 If these Tic Tac UFOs are piloted by extraterrestrials who are technologically light-years ahead of us, should we be afraid? 672 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,000 My search for answers continues.